Reading Response Frank Sanchez

The Philosophy of Andy Warhol and Postmodern American Poetry were great readings because they spoke to the reader and kept one very interested. The Philosophy of Andy Warhol was my favorite reading as it did a great job with differentiating two famous cities, New York and Paris. However, I was able to connect with the empty space analogy and the way the author acted. When Warhol states that, “to be really rich, I believe, is to have one space. One big empty space”, I was left in shock because everyone thinks that being rich is the ultimate goal but unfortunately most rich people end up living and dying alone. Having everything in the world doesn’t make one happy but miserable since there’s nothing more to fight for and motivate one to continue their life. I also enjoyed the way he thinks when he gives the analogy that he would build buildings that don't last long in order to have them rebuilt and keep people busy. Then when he went in depth with the argument that men aren't doing much in Italy because the buildings were so well built that their isn’t no job for men since there’s no need for rebuilding. A quote I really enjoyed from K. Silem Mohammad’s essay was when he explained that he is “unemployed and as happy as [he’s ever] felt in years”; this quote just go to show that the difference between the rich and the poor. Again, yes the rich might have everything they need in life but they do not have true happiness. Mohammad being unemployed seems to be enjoying his life as a poet than doing a job  he doesn’t like which is ultimately taking away he’s time to experience true happiness. On the other hand, one of the poems that I truly enjoyed was “The the the the the the the the the the Death (Hey Hey)”. This poem is a sonnet in which it rhymes lines A and C and B and D. For example,

And I don't mess with no Italian shit;

I only blow up your mind the one way, ho.

I line it up four-four-four-two, that’s it;

That’s how I do my sonnet bidness, yo.

We are able to see that the ending of each line rhymes with ending of the other line. So “shit” rhymes with “it” and “ho” rhymes with “yo”. This is a cool poem which demonstrates the cool ways of playing with words. 

Reading Response 10/15

In The Philosophy of Andy Warhol I believe the author is speaking of his view on time and how it can be both fleeting and forgetful, yet consuming. Warhol focuses on a topic that most people take for granted or never really pay much attention to. He shows how most people believe they may be in control of time, in the way in which you can now "carry time on your hands" by means of a watch. Yet, nobody is really in control of time. Must like most choose not to be in control of her sadness or happiness, but rather allow circumstance to dictate how they feel. Warhol tries to explain this theory when he states, "A person can cry or laugh. Always when you're crying you can be laughing, You have the choice. -- You decide what you want to do and how you spend your time."


I believe Works by K. Silem Mohammed almost speaks of the same philosophy, but rather within atmosphere, space. Although, his writing was very confusing and hard to grasp what his ideas are. Both pieces are the authors form and way of expressing their views on a topic.

Reading response 10/15

The Andy Warhol piece was a great piece of literature that really advocated the idea of freedom. Much like his paintings, his writing is very unique. He mentions this idea of emptiness and how he wants people to embrace the idea of having less and appreciating a more simple lifestyle. Ironically he is an artist who sells his work to take up the emptiness in people's houses so it's kind of juxtaposed in a sense. He also talks about life and death. He says, "What makes a person spend time being sad when they could be happy?" (112). This really stood out to me because of the context in which he uses it. He talks about a man jumping out of a window and killing himself and on lookers observe and then change the subject within a matter of minutes. This quote really gave me mixed feelings. Part of me understands what he's saying because of the context in which he uses it. Nobody wants to stare at a dead body for longer than they have to. But, at the same time, if that was me on the ground I would hope people would be upset. It really made me think of the mark I want to leave on this earth and I think that's Warhol's bigger picture. Everyone should embrace themselves that way people will remember them for who they are.

I also liked K Silem Mohammed's work because it talked about how a handful of people really control the vast majority or people. I like when he says, "Excessivism is when it starts to become a problem -- when it causes you to drop out of high school, become a bum and die of alcoholism at the age of 26" (932). Mohammed mentioned that he conforms like the rest of us, but this idea that their is a fine line between conforming and embracing. Some people embrace societal trends too much and eventually it consumes them. A lot of people like to party and drink, but there becomes a point when that's all you do and it will always defeat you. Mohammed uses alcoholism in youths to prove his point. I like that both writers use realistic ideas to support their statements.

Andy Warhol and Excessvism

The philosophy of Andy Warhol and works by K. Silem Mohammed are both non-fiction, first person narratives. Both can be quite repetitive, such as Andy Warhol saying “I think, I was, I look” and in the other story had poems that were repetitive. The reading is simple, but might be confusing to others. At times his ideas can be silly and comical, and other times outright stupid. “When I look around today, the biggest anachronism I see is pregnancy. I just can’t believe that people are still pregnant.” Well just what was he expecting? Maybe a scene from The Matrix where everyone is hooked up to tubes? He talks about people having a tube attached to their butts so they can recycle their food and don’t have to worry about buying food. A few pages near the end he mentions something that we have been talking about in class for a while. America is often described as a melting pot, yet people in the same groups live with each other, eat the same food. As he says, it needs to “mix and mingle.”  Andy Warhol was a visionary, honest and I can see a lot of me in him. Many of his ideas and views resonate with me. An example within the text is when Andy says “What makes a person spend time being sad when they could be happy?” Why is that? I’m not saying I am completely absolved of emotions like anger and sadness, and they do have their uses, but what good does that do me? I don’t spend my energy on that; I spend my energy on being happy. I choose to be happy and I choose to make the most out of everything. I don’t have enough room to talk about this short passage, as just about everything is quotable.

                The other reading was quite hard and often goes off in a tangent. The next sentence hardly has anything to do with anything said previously. Later you learn that it deals with abstraction, although that’s not the way I would of written it. Even the English is off, maybe intentionally. 

"Excessivism", by K. Salem Mohammad, and "The Philosophy of Andy Warhol"

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  In "The Philosophy of Andy Warhol", Warhol writes about his philosophy about how the world is. I really enjoyed reading about his different views. Some of these views included, money, time , space and art. He has a very humorous way of writing that makes it easy to read for the reader and enjoyable. One of my favorite points that he used to describe time was that he never actually arrives on time for appointments because they never start on time. Another good example that I completely agree with was when he was defining beauty. He says that beauty is always changing, and each person's form of beauty changes through their life. I’ve never looked at it like that but it makes a lot of sense. "Excessivism" by K. Salem Mohammad was not as easy to read as Warhol's reading. Mohammad rambles on and I feel never really elaborates on a point. Though, I did get some things from the reading like how he said that everything in your closet should have an expiration date so that it doesn’t become overcrowded.

Reading Response 10/15

In this week readings The Philosophy of Andy Warhol and Excessivism by K. Silem Mohammed were written in first person narrative. Both pieces seem to be a satire to American culture and its obsession with “things” and the way we live life. In The Philosophy of Andy Warhol he talks about how time is spent, that people have a tendency to stress in preparation of events or situations but once it passes the most memorable things about it was everything but the event. He also writes about the effects time has had on his own life, he says “Whenever I’m interested in something, I know the timings off, because I’m always interested in the right thing at the wrong time.” I think he believed that his ultimate praise or success would come when he’s no longer here, so the put out whatever ideas or art came to him with the hopes of it making “a few million dollars” (pg. 144).

In Excessivism, K.Silem Mohammed, he also addresses American culture but obsesses about excessiveness.  He uses idioms about all things “AMERICAN” from Southwest Airlines, to LCD monitors. Mohammed indirectly addresses our need to keep up with the materialism and the ability it has to take us from reality. He writes, “While I was writing it I got to thinking about all of the Nintendo merchandise I had. I am guilty of spending money in Beijing (duh), I am increasingly annoyed with blatant excessivism“ (pg. 931). Both writers seem to contradict themselves, Warhol in his need for everything to be simplified with a city with one main street, one tall building, one elevator and one doorman but is excited about the idea of Holograms. K. Silem Mohammed justifies his non-excessivism (is that even a word) by saying “I’m not saying that I don’t have a few CDs in my iTunes library that I no longer own. I’m not saying that I don’t have an iPod, because I do. I just haven’t put anything on it yet. “, as if having an iPod with no songs on it means he is less indulging in American culture of  consumer goods and materialism.

Philosophy of Andy Warhol and Silem Mohammed

Philosophy of Andy Warhol

The philosophy work written by Andy Warhol talks alot about time and how you spend your time. "People say time is on your hand. I looked at my hand and I saw lines." While reading this, I thought of the various time  have heard something like this. When people say time is on your hand, it sounds like they are saying that you have control of time and you can spend your time anyway you want. I agree with this because i believe a person can spend his time in what ever way he/she wants. Another part of the reading where i can agree upon is where he talks about  making appointment with a lady at a certain time but she does not arrive until a few hours later and when they were shooting a movie and one lady will always show up late. its very true that people do not follow time and appointments. you can say to meet up with someone at a specific time but they would not show up a few hours later. i have notice this in African people. A party is suppose to start at 8PM but no one will show up untill 10PM. If you really want people to be on time, you have to give them an early time so they can be on time for the actual appointment.
I really did not understand what was going on in the Silem Mohammed writing.

Reading Response 10/15

Reading Response 10/5

In the readings "The Philosophy of Andy Warhol (From A to B and Back Again)" and "Excessivism", both of the authors write in a first person narrative point of view. The most common similarity between these two pieces of literature are that both authors write an autobiography about their perspectives and opinions based on their own personal experiences.

Time and atmosphere became significant to Warhol at some point in his life. In chapter seven, I found it interesting how he explores the concept of “time on your hands” (109). He had many lines on his hand and he used his experience at a restaurant to see the waiter’s hand. He states, “…she grabbed his hand and showed it to me and it had no lines! Just the three main ones” (109). He found that amusing and started to wish he was a waiter. I thought it was weird considering the fact that everyone I unique and was born a certain way. Even if he was a waiter, that does not necessarily mean he will also have just the main lines on is hand. He and the waiter are two different people regardless of their job. In chapter ten, Warhol discusses the atmosphere and how people categorize their thoughts into spaces in their minds (143). There was a sense of uncertainty when he was talking about space. Even though he is an artist, he believes that the art that artists produce wastes people’s space. It is not his intention to waste people’s space, he wants to help them empty their space (144). I thought this was an interesting statement coming from an artist himself. I agree with Warhol because sculptures and other forms of art can take up a lot of space but people find them appealing.

Silem Mohammad’s writing was a bit confusing to me. It seems like he was talking about a lot of different concepts. One thing that stood out to was the constant use of the phrase "I don't give a damn" (930). I think this phrase shows us that the writer is indifferent and he is being honest with his readers about how he really feels.

Overwhelmed

       The Philosophy of Andy Warhol as well as works by K. Silem Mohammed are narratives spoken in first person. The author’s personal accounts and opinions are strongly expressed throughout the readings.  Both authors share similar qualities such as overt thinking and listing events without any transition or correlation.

      Andy Warhol expresses his opinions freely, however always keeping reminding the author of his lack of chemicals.  He gives an example of how he could see a murderer mystery one night and watch it a second time and not know who the murder was. He follows by saying “so I know there’s something really wrong with me”.  Through his behavior and repeated sayings of being sick as a child and missing chemicals, it intrigued me to know the exact type of chemicals or disease he had. It turns out that Warhol had a disorder of the nervous system called St. Vitus dance. It was drawn to my attention that this disorder followed an A beta-haemolytic streptococcal infection, and the subtitle is (from A to B and back again). I wondered if there was any connection between these two.  Warhol uses an easy language everyone can to identify with.  Incorporation of words such as, “I like, I love, I prefer” give it a personal mood, he is an egocentric person. He is also, very realistic and open about controversial views.  He uses dashes to create a pause.  Anaphora and repetition are elements being used,  “I love to” (153).   The “Atmosphere” section used many contradictory ideas. He believes in empty spaces yet he creates art to fill that space, and admits to not following his own philosophy.  Some of his views I found to be rare, such as selling back products to supermarkets. On page 146 he gave a strong sensory image, it consisted of having a tube connected from your anus back into the mouth, to eliminate bathroom use.  Warhol is quite the character.

Works by K. Silem Mohammed use a poor choice of words in the first section of Excessivism.  Words such as, kill, stab, shittiness, menstrual cycle, pain, ego problem and whores, give this work an aggressive and hostile tone. The vocabulary is vulgar.  There were so many ideas and concepts being thrown at the reader. For most part I was confused on the content of the actual work until further reading into the text; when they revealed that it was a parody of Frank O’Hara “Personism: A manifesto,” Repetition is used, “I don’t give a damn”.  The poems presented in this anthology correspond to postmodern American poetry.  Lines of iambic pentameter give it a song-like rhythm.  The language is hard to understand, due to the difference in time they were created in comparison with today. Most of the poems had aggressive mood or ulterior motives as Mohammed had mentioned.  Both text by Mohammed and Warhol have unique styles and methods for writing.  Both authors were continuously reinventing themselves.

Warhol and Mohammen

In my other college I studied Warhol works and loved it. I even saw his works live at the Moma museum. His art work is different and is super unique. In The Philosophy of Andy Warhol ,Warhol is sharing is personal business to the readers. I think he learning about himself in different ways. I think he learned stuff about him he never knew about himself. I think is comparing himself to other people and seeing different how different he is from other people around him. It seems that he wants to be different from everybody else. He always mention things about memory and how its important thing for people. It seems like he was saying memory keeps you young and who you are. For example, “Then there’s time in the street, when you run into somebody you haven’t seen in, say, five years, and you play, it all on one level.When you see each other and you don’t even haven't lose a beat, thats when its the best”(Pg 111). I think what Warhol is saying is when you remember something or someone its keeping you alive, it makes you young. I think Warhol had so many quotes in the books about his life and life in general. I see he shares a lot personal things and how to better himself as a person. He speaks in first person point of view.

In Excessivism, I think Mohammen essay was a bit confusing. However, I think he was sharing common sense and the “what ifs”. I think Mohammen is more keeping it real and out spoken then Warhol. I think Mohammed was just saying how he feels. I think Mohammen writes his essay aggressively. It seems like he just wanted to say what he had to say and be done with the situation. I also think he's brutally honest with himself and other people.I think he feels that is not perfect but he’s going to do what he wants. Its like he’s going to do what he wants to do and if you don’t like then bye. The poems gave me a halloween vibe. They all them to talk about spooky situations and ghost. Some of the poems were also funny because they way these use violent words. For example, “Hell yeah, is an English some, bitch:Three quatrains and a couplet, mother” (731). I like both stories but I think Warhol story was a bit more engaging. 

One of Andy Warhol works

    In the readings, "Excessivism", by K. Salem Mohammad, and "The Philosophy of Andy Warhol" : From A to B and Back Again, both writings are non-fiction, an autobiography from the authors point of view. Warhol's writing is very interesting. Warhol, talks about very simple and everyday situations in a very unique way. Warhol's readings are a collection of paragraphs and quotes. He speaks about space, time, art, beauty, and age.

    Most of Warhol's observations are on life, some general, some personal, and range from distinctive philosophies to brief meaningless rants and reflections. Warhol, explains space and he indicates:
   
      I've always had a conflict because I'm shy and yet I like to take up a lot of personal space. Mom always said, "Don't be pushy, but let everybody know you're around." I wanted to command more space than I was commanding, but then I knew I was too shy to know what to do do with the attention if I did manage to get it. That's why I love television. That's why I feel television is the media I'd most like to shine in. I'm really jealous of everybody who's got their own show on television. As I said, I want a show of my own called "Nothing Special." (147)

    What I got from this paragraph is that in order for him to be heard and seen he must stand out from the crowd, be in the spotlight, and demand attention, and once he got the attention he wanted he didn't know how to receive it, because he was so shy. Make your voice heard. I can relate to him in this sense because just like him I'm shy, but I know being shy won't get me to where I need to go in this world. So I must speak up and demand attention, and have my voice heard.


    I enjoyed Warhol's reading he had some really funny insights. He said things that people wanted to say, but didn't have the balls to. He does this when he says :        

   And New York restaurants now have a new thing, they don't sell their food, they sell their atmosphere. They say, " How dare you say we don't have good food, when we never said we had good food. We have good atmosphere." They caught on that what people really care about is changing their atmosphere for a coupe of hours. That's why they can get away with just selling their atmosphere with a minimum of actual food. Pretty soon when food prices go really up, they'll be selling only atmosphere. If people are really all that hungry, they can bring food with them when they go out to dinner, but otherwise, instead of "going out to dinner" they'll just be "going out to atmosphere."  (159)


     I'm sure we can all relate to this situation living in New York City.

    In the reading "Excessivism" it got a bit confusing to me because he just rambles and changes the subject frequently.  His poems all have the same concept of being gloomy and creepy. He uses the word disembodied several times in the poem "Cosmic Deer Head Freakout". They both spoke about everyday life situations in the readings.

   Overall, I wasn't a fan of his reading.

Christian Persaud
The Philosophy of Andy Warhol and K. Silem Mohammed
Response:

Upon reading The Philosophy of Andy Warhol, I was strangely intrigued because this is a man who questioned everything about daily life and even the aspects we take for granted. Written as a first-person account, the story has an appeal that draws you in, primarily because everything the author says is relatable in some way. Warhol describes things meticulously, almost as if he pictured every single detail in his mind as if it were a film. There are numerous descriptions and concerns throughout the story that are very elementary but pertains to real-life current issues. For example Warhol gives his opinion on the food industry:

      "There should be markets that sell things and supermarkets that buy things back, and until that equalizes, there'll be more waste than there should be. Everybody would always have something to sell back, so everybody would have money, because everybody would have something to sell. " (145) 

This quote caught my attention immediately due to the way it was written. It speaks an obvious truth that many people are aware of but still remains prevalent, even today. Another funny quote depicting Warhol's sense of current events: "And New York restaurants now have a new thing-they don't sell their food, they sell their atmosphere."(159) The entire book ventures across concerns of Warhol's that varies of importance and scale which also brings up his own philosophy on the way the world works. As a book that was written prior to the twenty-first century, Warhol brings up ideas that are still relevant today and which can also be attributed to the events back in his time.

K. Silem Mohammed's Excessivism focused on his concerns of technology and his declaration that it is affecting society in a big, non-beneficial way. As he describes his shallow take on the modern world, the idea of being controlled through technology is a recurring concern in the text. Mohammed's notion of interference when technology is involved in your life is a bit of a stretch but is only true if addiction is prevalent. Excessivism itself can help provide solutions to many of Mohammeds issues. I disagree with the poet on many points as the world is a remarkably better place with Nintendo in it.     

Reading Response 10/15

The reading The Philosophy of Andy Warhol really caught my attention. The author writes about his views on ordinary things in life such as time, money, obsessions and life. His story takes place in both Paris and France and his views on each place. Most of the things mentioned reminded me of things that I can relate to. For example on page 158 “When people have a cool, calm atmosphere about them they’re usually spaced. They have those right kind of eyes, and they sit around and not bother anybody.” When I read this part I actually sent a picture of it to my friend because that line can be used to describe me. I tend to often zone out, become quiet and just observe my surroundings. I can also relate to his idea that smells remind him of different things. This has happened to me on different occasions when I smell something and that smell triggers a memory. I also had a professor suggest to me, that I wear a certain scent when I was studying and then wear the same one again on an exam. This was supposed to help me remember. I like his idea on time and his belief that “you decide what you want to do and how you want to spend your time.” We decide what paths we want to take in life, and how we want to do them.

The second reading “Excessivism” is a bit confusing from the start. He goes from one thought to the next, without completing the first. So much that at the end of the first page I had no idea what the author was writing about. Even though it doesn't make much sense, somehow everything seems to flow together. Like in a conversation when you're speaking about one thing, and that reminds you of something else so you end up talking about something completely different. It's just like ideas the author has written down. The author also uses some repetition of the same phrases for example, the use of “I don’t give a damn” and “everything.” His poems at the end of the essay are very descriptive. In that poem he is comparing the death of a dear with that of a black prostitute. A comparison which might seem odd but he makes it work.

The philosophy of Andy Warhol offers a deep meaning into Andy Warhol's world perhaps as he would like for readers to see it. His philosophy is filled with views of life, money , art, time, space etc. While reading I found him to be a strange and funny man especially with his little obsessions with his TV, time, perfume etc, It is as if there is an underlying humor throughout by the way he phrases his point. Warhol's reflection about the concept of time is very practical. For example he learns to arrive to his appointment late because whenever he goes to his appointment at exactly ten, he does not get seen until five minutes to one. He also negates the concept that Paris is more esthetic than  New York because New York does not have time to be esthetic because it takes a person half a day to go either uptown or downtown. I totally agree with this idea of beauty. He feels that each person has beauty at different points in life and one should not change his/her beauty  for the sake of avoiding people because in the long run, real beauty remain and will attract someone. Warhol believes that people's thoughts are like spaces in their minds and makes it clear that he prefers big open spaces. He contradicts his belief of open spaces because as an artist, his art takes up people's spaces. Also, I was surprised when he stated that if a person in New York City feels the need for a closet, that should be located in New Jersey. Furthermore, he states how items in the closet should have expiration dates to avoid collection of too many things.
K.Silem Mohammed essay "Excessivism" also focuses on philosophy. The structure of this essay is similar to The Philosophy of Andy Warhol because both works switches between narrative style and disjointed subjects expressing their opinions about life. Mohammed is against the idea of technology. He stated,"While I was writing it I got to thinking about all of the Nintendo merchandise I had. I am guilty of spending money in Beijing"( 931). On the other hand, Mohammed states that excessivism is not wrong but only becomes wrong when it disrupts people's life and school; "dropping out of high school, become a bum and die of alcoholism at the age of 26". In the poem "Cosmic Deer Head Freakout" the repetition of "the camera is pulled back" at the end of stanza 1 and stanza 3 contribute to my understanding of the poem. The camera needs to be pulled back to see what is happening. This poem withhold any sympathy because it integrates the death of a black prostitute with a deer. The use of vivid imagery and word choice describes the head as a disturbed thing " It's a disembodied head called the silly slammer its ugly as sin, also it's eyebrows are purple when punched it yells get a life or get real". Furthermore, the use of simile is used to describe the head. It is compared to being as ugly as a sin.

The selections from The Philosophy of Andy Warhol and the works by K. Silem Mohammed focus mainly on the topic of philosophy. Both of these authors are expressing their opinions about human existence, knowledge, and language. They also share a similar writing style that involves rambling and switching the subject constantly. It sort of makes the reader feel as if they are in a conversation with the author. Especially Mohammed’s short essay, “Excessivism,” because it questions the reader and seems to have a sarcastic tone. In addition, both writers use first person narrative allowing the reader to be in their shoes and to comprehend their ideas better.

            Three subjects that caught my attention in Warhol’s selections are his thoughts about mind capability, time, and space. He mentions how humans have control over what to think and how to react to certain situations. Warhol uses the example of the person jumping out of the flophouse’s window to demonstrate how humans can actually view death as comedy depending on how they decide to interpret the situation.  He says,

“A person can cry or laugh. Always when you’re crying you could be laughing, you have the choice. Crazy people know how to do this best because their minds are loose. So you can take the flexibility your mind is capable of and make it work for you. You decide what you want to do and how you want to spend your time” (112).

In other words, people can make their mind work to their benefit. They can control their reactions to situations by the construction of their thoughts. Also, Warhol discusses about time and how he likes to live life slowly. He claims that he does not like to travel because traveling is like rapidly seeing one’s life pass by in a movie (116). Like Mohammed’s essay, Warhol also touches upon the subject of technology. However, Warhol mentions technology as a take up of space. He says,“Before media there used to be a physical limit on how much space one person could take up themselves. People, I think, are the only things that know how to take up more space than the space they’re actually in, because with media you can sit back and still let yourself fill up space on records, in the movies, most exclusively on the telephone and least exclusively on television” (146).

Warhol discusses how television gives celebrities power since they are influencing and being recognized by many people. A person appears so small when compared to their large population but when on television this person becomes big, important, and popular (147). Mohammed though seems to not like the modern world as much. Mohammed sort of opposes the control technology has over humanity and even mentioned to have felt guilt when spending money on Nintendo merchandise (931). What caught my attention from Mohammed’s essay though was his discussion about excessivism. He believes excessivism or nicotinism is wrong when it starts to interfere with a person’s life and education. He also does not like when the effect of drugs is revealed in poetry because it puts the poem and poet under terrible pressure (932). Although excessivism or nicotinism helps him and makes others content, Mohammed also recognizes its bad side. 

Reading Response 10/15

In the readings The Philosophy of Andy Warhol and K. Silem Mohammed’s Excessivism, both readings are from a first person narrative point of view and the writings of both authors are an autobiography, where the readers are put through their writer’s own personal experience. In both writings there seem to be a recurring theme where a word is written throughout the whole reading. In The Philosophy of Andy Warhol chapter 7 “time” was the recurring theme, the word “time” also recurred throughout the autobiography. Warhol explained the correlation between time and age, she mentions:

Some people decide to be old and then they do exactly what old people are supposed to do. But when they were twenty years old they were doing what twenty-years-olds are supposed to do. And then there are those other people who look twenty all their lives. It’s thrilling to see movie stars – since they’re more involved in that than most people who have worked on their beauty, who still have all their energy because they’re still working with their young selves. (110)

Warhol explained how time and age intertwine, she gives an example on how time affects the process of their development including the way someone look, but she also regarded that everyone ages differently, “there are others who looked twenty their whole life.” She gave many examples on how time plays a role in a lifetime, just like this example she gave many small things that end up playing a huge role when it comes to time.

            Just like how Warhol chapter 10 had a recurring theme of "time" she had the recurring theme of “space.” In which she explained it in two different ways, one is explained a physical space, and space as in distancing one’s self from others. Warhol’s poem, reminds me of Fast Speaking Woman by Maria Sabina, despite the fact that each lines doesn't sound the same, but there's a recurring word of "time."

            Silem on the other hand also used a recurring theme, on his poem Spooked for David Larsen, Silem just like Warhol’s theme with time, he used the word spooky multiple times in the poem to emphasize in a sarcastic way the "spooky" things going on during Halloween. In another Silem’s poem, Cosmic Deer Head Freak Out, the word disembodied were also repeated do add gruesome atmosphere into the poem.